PHOTOS from Phoenx Rising? PLEASE?
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mijanI'm desperately hunting for pics from the convention. Has anyone posted anything yet? I'd love to see the pics.
AND... has anyone reported on that "No Mary Sues in Slash" presentation? I want to see if that wench got what she deserved (harassment from educated slashers). Any reports? And if you don't know what I'm talking about in regards to that presentation, here's the summary:
No Mary Sues in Slash: Gender Envy in Erotic Fanfiction
Lelac Almagor
Slash writers often express contempt for the heterosexual Mary Sue story, which they perceive as “too close to the ‘sentimental love religion’ of the romance novel.” But I argue that slash fiction is in fact a more radical and less hopeful response to the same fear and worry surrounding female sexuality that motivates the heterosexual romance. Slash authors and audiences construct sexual power and success as impossible in a female body, but readily attainable in a male body. The hard question is whether the work of slash can contribute materially to the alleviation of the discontent it expresses.
AND... has anyone reported on that "No Mary Sues in Slash" presentation? I want to see if that wench got what she deserved (harassment from educated slashers). Any reports? And if you don't know what I'm talking about in regards to that presentation, here's the summary:
No Mary Sues in Slash: Gender Envy in Erotic Fanfiction
Lelac Almagor
Slash writers often express contempt for the heterosexual Mary Sue story, which they perceive as “too close to the ‘sentimental love religion’ of the romance novel.” But I argue that slash fiction is in fact a more radical and less hopeful response to the same fear and worry surrounding female sexuality that motivates the heterosexual romance. Slash authors and audiences construct sexual power and success as impossible in a female body, but readily attainable in a male body. The hard question is whether the work of slash can contribute materially to the alleviation of the discontent it expresses.
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Date: 2007-05-20 10:30 pm (UTC)as for that panel, I didn't go as it conflicted with one I went to, but I've heard nothing about it
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Date: 2007-05-20 10:35 pm (UTC)Apparently, it wasn't what everyone feared it would be.
fancy that ;-)
Date: 2007-05-20 10:38 pm (UTC)As to THe Mary Sue panel, despite the buzz, people were really polite and responded along the lines of "yeah, you make a valid argument but please don't generalize". She did come out as a newbie in the beginning of the presentation, which seemed to allow some people to let the steam out a little bit before they got to the Q&A session.
She also literally escaped - she didn't finish the Q&A and dashed off to present something else at the other panel, which was a valid reason, of course, but sort of left the discussion hanging there in the open. What ended up happening was that Henry,
After all, she did have an argument, which was valid for some people because almost every argument is valid for at least some in a fandom that large, and everybody understood that...
I don't know if it answers the original question the way you framed it, but certainly the lecture was interesting and it did generate some interesting exchange of opinions, and yes, first thing we did was to warn her about the dangers of over-generalizing.
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Date: 2007-05-22 02:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-05-22 02:45 am (UTC)More to come