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There's no denying that the sailing aboard the S.S. Guns'n'Handcuffs on the SCUSA seas has been a bit rough lately.  However, the past is the past... but then, that's exactly where we're about to go.  What am I talking about?

In an attempt to raise spirits and foster a much-needed sense of INTRA-ship unity, I'm proposing a thread entitled "H/D: A History".  This thread will have two closely intertwined themes.  First, we're going to be examining the history of the pairing, starting around the time Goblet of Fire was published.  The first wave of serious H/D fics began around that time, and with the end of the HP series rapidly approaching, it'll be exciting to look back and see where this pair of characters has been, in BOTH canon and fanon, and how the former has affected the latter.  Second, we're going to look at the history of the ship itself.  For the better part of the last two years, there's been a strong sense of continuity on the G'n'H.  People came and went, but there was never a strong break between groups of shippers, and as a result, the shippers held an understanding of the history of the ship, which fostered a sense of community.  I believe that this continuity has been lost in recent threads, and to bring people together again, it might be a good time to look back at where we've been.

I do NOT want a Question&Answer format.  I would like to see open-ended discussion from a few starting topics that will be presented in the first post.  If you want to present an idea for a topic, please post here and let me know!  I'll include it if the topic fits the theme.

To fuel discussion, I'd also like people to volunteer for certain jobs.  I have two in particular.  "Ficlet Writers" and "Thread Historians".

"Ficlet Writer" is self-explanitory.  On the threads, we're allowed to have one ficlet or cookie per page.  Once upon a time, we used to do those more often, and they were a lot of fun.  Now, we do more skits, but very few well-developed ficlets, or developed skits.  So, I'd like people to volunteer to write cookies.  If you do, please tell me which page you're going to post your cookie on, so that the thread doesn't get thwapped for posting two cookies per page.  Only ONE per page!  I'll post the list of Ficlet Writers with their assigned pages on the first post of the thread.  Ten cookies per thread, maximum, but we don't need to have one on *every* page.  As long as there are enough to enrich the thread.

For "Thread Historians", the task is a bit different.  Although I'd like as many people as possible, recent shippers and long-time posters alike, to go back to our earlier threads and read through a little bit of our history, I know that not everyone has that time.  I'd like for individual people to take groups of threads, by number (for example, threads one through five), and go back and read them carefully.  Dig a little bit.  And then, select the topic of discussion that seemed to be the most interesting, and bring it to light again, in face of our changing ship.  Start that round of discussion.  OR, alternatively, give a brief synopsis *(keeping it light-hearted) about the "era" you read about.  Look back on where we were and talk about it in relation to where we are now.  The purpose is to give people a sense of their own ship's history, and who we are as a community. 

Now, a few things I'd like people to remember for this thread, and hopefully future ones:
~ The ship race has hurt our ship far more than helped it.  Forget about racing the threads.  Don't post just to finish the thread.  Post because you want to interact with your fellow shippers!
~ Your post doesn't have to be long... just thoughtful.  It can be humourous or serious... just make sure that your post is part of the continuous discussion.
~ Continuous discusssion... yes... read what other people have written, and then respond to them.  Remember, you're not answering questions on a school exam.  You're talking to your fellow shippers.  Remember that this is a conversation!
~ One major topic of discussion at a time!  Part of where people tend to lose each other is when we're doing ten different Q&A topics at once.  Yes, talk about different things in your post, but try to keep it as part of a cohesive discussion.
~ The only difference between an "oldbie" and a "newbie" is when that person happened to find the fandom.  If you're a current poster, revel in the richness of the history of the community you've joined!  If you're coming back after a period away, enjoy the nostalgia!  There's a lot to share, and lots of stories to tell.
~ It doesn't matter if a person is a writer, artist, reader, or confirmed lurker.  We're all shippers, regardless of notoriety, and no person is more or less important than another.
~ Keep it fun, keep it guttery.  There's a LOT that can be done, said, and shared within the rules and *cough* rating guidelines.  Vive la subtext!

If the History theme ends up needing more than one thread, and if we're having fun with it, we can extend it a bit!   There's no rule that this has to be only one thread.  After the History theme has run its course, and everyone is back on the same page again, I'd like to start the reunion thread for the season.  This year, the tentative title is "H/D Reunion: Home for the Holidays".

There's a lot of fun to be had.  And isn't that the point, after all?  This is for fun.

~P, Captain, S.S. Guns'n'Handcuffs

Date: 2005-11-16 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunalovegoddess.livejournal.com
*salutes Capt. P*
"Aye, aye, Cap'n!"

(On a silly note, my daughter built a 15th century Spanish ship today for her Ponce de Leon project. We put it into the bathtub and it floats, and she yelled out, "Row, ye gutterpirates, row. C'mon, Draco, put yer back into it!" Which just goes to show you that there will be a new generation of shippers some day for us to set a good example.)

Date: 2005-11-17 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Awww, you're training her well! Such a smart young gutterpirate! *bounces*

Date: 2005-11-16 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anyotherknight.livejournal.com
I am absolutely in awe of your idea. I'm behind it one hundred percent, and I'll be pimping this post all 'round. This is exactly what the thread needs; no wonder you're our cap'n!

...Could I maybe be a Ficlet writer? Page four would be my favourite, but just being able to write would be an honour.

Date: 2005-11-17 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Page four is yours! And remember, we'll want some ficlet authors for the reunion thread too. :D

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Date: 2005-11-16 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flawedamythyst.livejournal.com
This sounds like a great idea, and as a very new newbie, it'd be great to get some history and background to the Ship and fandom.

Date: 2005-11-17 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Ah my dear! You're in for a treat! The G'n'H has some of the richest (and gutteriest, and funnest... is that a word?) history in the fandom. This is gonna be great. :D

Date: 2005-11-17 12:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] castiel.livejournal.com
Count me in, P! I'll be there.

I'm pretty sure you won't remember, but I was flawed on G'n'H back in the day. Haha. I disappeared for a while, but your idea sounds wonderful, and as Octune said just what our ship needs, so I'll definitely be joining in.

Date: 2005-11-17 12:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] castiel.livejournal.com
Oh and I'd like to be a Ficlet Writer. I'm shitty at deadlines, though, but I'd definitely like to try. Maybe around page 12, to give me some time for an idea?

Date: 2005-11-17 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Of course I remember you! I just didn't know your LJ screen name. Do you think I'd forget my darling gutterpirate mateys? *tackle-glomps*

Oh, and there isn't a page 12 on a thread. Just 1 through 10. But we'll also need ficlet writers for the Reunion thread. Want to aim for that one? :D

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Date: 2005-11-17 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tehgenius.livejournal.com
*Bounces*

This idea just makes me feel so much happier about GnH right now. I think both will be incredible threads, especially looking forward to the history part. Also, I would love to be a "Thread Historian" :)

-Rach.

Date: 2005-11-17 12:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
*grins* I like making people happy about our wonderful ship. We really needed a good pick-up after all that negative stuff. And of course you can be a thread historian! Is there any "era" in particular you're interested in?

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Date: 2005-11-17 02:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hinter.livejournal.com
Man, I love this idea! I'm all n00bish and don't know that much about G'n'H's history, although I might know more than the average ten-thread-old. I don't have an extremely strong desire to be either a Ficlet Writer or Thread Historian, but I'd be glad to be either if there are gaps. I don't really care one way or another.

And I know I've said this already, but I'd like to apologize again for some of my comments recently — I guess I was mad, but right now it all seems really silly. And besides, right now in life I'm too happy to be mad for long. Have you ever seen the pic of Voldie on Cheering Charms on Accio Brain? That's about me right now, except I was never an evil megalomaniac. Minor detail.

-Aeli,
*who loves everything*

Date: 2005-11-17 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Wheee! Cheering-charm!Voldy! That's too funny.

And you don't have to be a Ficlet writer or Thread historian... just joining in the fun will be more than enough! I want everyone to enjoy themselves, which is really what's at the root of all this anyway.
*huggles*
I'm hoping that this will be a way to bring the past to the present, and to get all the shippers from all the eras to come together on common ground, so that we can all move forward together. :)

Date: 2005-11-17 03:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexia75.livejournal.com
I *love* this idea, really cool, and a great way of not forgetting the good old days, but also moving forward into good new days too!

I'd love to write a ficlet for the thread - I don't mind whereabouts you'd want it. Maybe page 5 or 6? Any themes?

Ooh, am excited again!

Also, *friends you*. For some reason I seem to be lacking in GnHers on my flist. This is a travesty that must be remedied! :)

Date: 2005-11-17 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Hmmm... how about page 6? And the ficlet can be any theme that you want. If you can come up with something that mirrors the theme of the thread, that's cool, but let yourself be inspired. If you see something in an old thread that makes you laugh or cry, use that as inspiration. Oh! And if you're inspired by something from an old thread, link to the thread/post that inspired you. More connections!

Whatever you decide to write about, remember, a ficlet is more than 100 words, but less than 1,000. Those aren't hard-numbers, but general guidelines. And it doesn't have to be perfect... just have fun with it. :)

*friends you back*
*huggles*

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Date: 2005-11-17 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivullinen.livejournal.com
Ooh, this sounds so awesome and inspiring! We get to know more of our ship's history, yay! *is excited*

I can be a Thread historian, and I don't particularly care which threads I get. I can do five successive threads, but you can tell me which :) Because I wonder if we'll get enough historians, so maybe there're some "more important" threads that should definitely be included?

-Sivu-

Date: 2005-11-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Hmm... would you like to start at the beginning? The official beginnings of our ship on SCUSA were slow and silly, which should make for easier reading. Maybe you could do more than five threads? Let me go look into it, but for now... want to just start at the beginning?
:)

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Date: 2005-11-17 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] augustfai.livejournal.com
Now that's what I'm talking about! *g* Oooh, am so excited.

Date: 2005-11-17 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] augustfai.livejournal.com
Was boucning around; forgot to mention I'd like to be a ficlet writer, if that's alright? Doesn't matter which page really, I'm not picky.

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Date: 2005-11-17 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonysshadow.livejournal.com
*slashes the hobbits*

Sorry, couldn't resist....and I just want to say how awesome this idea is, and I hope I don't miss any of it.

Two points of interest:
1)I think someone should go to the SCUSA ship and announce this, so the current people don't get the shock of their life. However, I suspect you've already done that...
2)Friending! Yes, I want to friend some more G'n'H'ers, so I think it would be nice to say that on the front page; that if someone wants to give up their lj name, their encouraged to.

Date: 2005-11-17 03:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Of course the people on the ship know. Actually... that's where I first mentioned this before I wrote the LJ entry, plust I've linked this entry to the thread too. Several of the people who have posted on my LJ are active shippers, so I think we're good!

And of course you can friend me. :)

Date: 2005-11-17 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonysshadow.livejournal.com
Oh, forgot, mind if I friend you, as well?

Date: 2005-11-17 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chequeredmystic.livejournal.com
I haven't posted on GnH properly for about 8 threads or so. I miss it.

So, unless there are any objections, can I please volunteer to be a Thread Historian?

Date: 2005-11-17 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
of course you can be! Do you have a preferred group of threads? And how many threads do you want to take? I'd like someone to specifically cover threads 10 through 25, if they're feeling ambitious.

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Now this, is why YOU are the Cap'N.

Date: 2005-11-17 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mu51ng-drag0n.livejournal.com
I love the idea, even though I'm neither a newbie or an oldbie. I joined ship a long time ago, but only started posting actively a couple of months ago.

I'd have loved to be a thread historian, alas, I lack the time to do it. I love reading the past threads, they're so fun. I read all of them this summer, yesh, all of them. Maybe the thread historians can also collect the best skits on their chosen threads and post them in our website?

Oh, I'm friending as well. Feel free to throw me out.

Re: Now this, is why YOU are the Cap'N.

Date: 2005-11-17 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Awww, I don't throw out anyone! *hugs* *friends back*

And you don't have to devote a ton of time to being a Thread Historian. Pick a couple of threads, and tell us a bit about what happened, or try to give us a "flavour" of the era. Interested?

Date: 2005-11-17 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sc-atharsis.livejournal.com
Oh!!! *sooo excited* I'm sure it'll be AMAZING! All this talk lately about GnH being so wrecked up and all makes very much no sense to me, because I haven't been around to see it all 'change' and to see 'the continuity go away'. But I'm certain this thingey will clear it all up for me and will explain a lot. Since it one of your plans it'll surely be great! Even though I'm to newbie-ish to feel in any way capable of doing one of the two tasks, I'd absolutely love to know more about our history, both ship and pairing-wise.

Love, SC *excited*

Date: 2005-11-18 11:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
Yay! See you on the thread! *glomps*

Date: 2005-11-18 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singlewoman.livejournal.com
Capt'n P, your faithful cabin girl awaits instructions. Actually, she is a bit confused because although she is not terribly new to slash, she has no idea what G'n'H is. She is very willing to fill in where needed and takes instructions well. Besides, she would follow you to the ends of the earth.

Date: 2005-11-18 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijan.livejournal.com
G'n'H = "Guns'n'Handcuffs" = our wonderful Harry/Draco ship. Take a peek, my love!
http://www.fictionalley.org/fictionalleypark/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100123

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