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Please rec me some fics from the holiday exchanges. I've seen the recs lists that are posted on some of the more prominent journals, and I've read quite a few of those recs, but I'm still seeking more. I have limited time (I work two jobs), and I'd like to get the maximum enjoyment out of the limited time that I have for reading fics.
Most of you know my preferred pairings, but I'll read anything CLEVER... plotty, unique, or just really well written/executed. Even the "usual tricks" written well would be good.
Tell me what you liked, and why, and give this poor, desperate, overworked fangirl some extra reading fodder.
Thanks!
Please rec me some fics from the holiday exchanges. I've seen the recs lists that are posted on some of the more prominent journals, and I've read quite a few of those recs, but I'm still seeking more. I have limited time (I work two jobs), and I'd like to get the maximum enjoyment out of the limited time that I have for reading fics.
Most of you know my preferred pairings, but I'll read anything CLEVER... plotty, unique, or just really well written/executed. Even the "usual tricks" written well would be good.
Tell me what you liked, and why, and give this poor, desperate, overworked fangirl some extra reading fodder.
Thanks!
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Date: 2007-12-16 06:57 am (UTC)<3
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Date: 2007-12-16 06:59 am (UTC)So... no fics to rec? *pouts*
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Date: 2007-12-16 07:01 am (UTC)Sorry!! D: D:
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Date: 2007-12-16 07:02 am (UTC)*gives chocolate*
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Date: 2007-12-16 07:14 am (UTC)Okay, recs. Not sure what you've already read, but I'll see what I can do. :P
HERE is a list of fest recs that I put up last week. There might be some there that you've missed that might interest you. I don't have too much since then, because I've been in the middle of finals and have fallen behind on reading. Although I did read Kiss a Boy in London Town on Smutmas earlier, and really, really liked it. The disclaimer here is that I generally am not into "rentboy" type fics AT ALL, but this story is so far beyond the usual cliches that it's something else entirely. YMMV!
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Date: 2007-12-16 07:22 am (UTC)I hadn't been following Harry_Holidays, but I'll go check those out. HD_Holidays was my "second fest" to follow, so Harry_holidays fell by the wayside.
I've had a hard time breaking past pre-epilogue canon with the Harry/Snape thing, but maybe I should give more of the Snarry_Holidays fics a chance. I've read a few, but not the ones you listed. I'll give them a go.
Are you going to put up a more recent recs list? Week 2? We're into the 3rd week now, yes? *grins hopefully* Or do you have any recs off the top of your head? Any combinations of Harry, Draco, and/or Snape? *bribes with chocolate*
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Date: 2007-12-16 02:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 08:44 am (UTC)I wasn't that fond of "The Price We Pay for Wings", it wasn't bad per se, but it still didn't do much for me.
Four Paper Dragons I liked, and Fade to Silver. High Priced was quite nice too (if maybe a bit too schmoopy, but I LIKE fluff!), and A Fair Cop.
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 03:46 pm (UTC)Also, the highest comment-counts are for art... and I hate to say it, but I've only seen ONE piece of art that I really LOVED this year. There were a couple pieces that I liked, but the rest didn't do ANYTHING for me... yet they had more comments than almost any fic.
I don't like fluff, but I'll read the other three. Thanks!
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Date: 2007-12-16 03:54 pm (UTC)I'm halfway through The secret lives of Shadowmen. It's looooong and so far it's been really good too (with only 19 comments ;) so I'm keeping my hopes up that the ending will be good too.
My definition of "fluff" is "a story with a plot with a happy ending and snogging" :P Nothing turns me faster away from a fic than a) a sad ending b) any stories in established relationships c) infidelity.
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Date: 2007-12-16 08:49 am (UTC)For my boy on boy needs, I'm looking to original slash fic instead haha XD
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Date: 2007-12-16 10:07 am (UTC)And that's precisely why I don't do those anymore. I was always petrified that I'd be the one to write the crap fic. I remember getting people I didn't even know. I'd try to read their journals and get some sort of idea of what made them tick and what their kinks were but in the end, I always felt I'd written something stale and not that good. That's the danger of being in a writing circle where you might get anything.
Hell, to see me try to write slash for example? It'd just be sad. People would point and laugh. I have absolutely no skillz there. :-D
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Date: 2007-12-16 04:01 pm (UTC)For me, when I read the list of kinks and squicks, likes and dislikes, and so on... it actually gives me plot ideas. I find it to be a fun prompt.
The only way a fic sucks is if you put absolutely no effort into it. The ones I read that made me feel as if I'd wasted my time... it felt as if the writer had followed the cheap-porn formula, written it in as short a form as possible, gave a minimal amount of development, and so on. I'm sure you know the type. You don't have to write spectacular porn to make a good exchange fic. Just write a FIC. The best fic I received last year had okay-ish porn, but a WONDERFUL plot and beautiful writing. That's what I love.
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:41 pm (UTC)I've followed Smutmas for four years now and others as they've popped up, and I think this year has the same level of quality as always. I certainly haven't noticed a drop-off in quality -- some fics are stunning, most are solid, and some are mediocre -- same as always. I've found in the past that fics that veer from the most popular pairings are usually the best bets, and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because I'm more open-minded about those, or maybe because I don't read them any other time of year so they seem really fresh and interesting? I've hardly read any H/D yet, though I'll get to it eventually.
And, er... you do realize you've just freaked out everyone whose fics have already been posted, right? Keep in mind that we all wrote these fics FOR other people, to THEIR tastes -- not our own, and not yours, honestly. In some cases, we stretched ourselves to write pairings, plot devices, and endings that we wouldn't have otherwise. But we did it because we were creating gifts for other people, in the spirit of a holiday exchange. Just a thought...
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Date: 2007-12-17 05:04 am (UTC)I guess I'm looking for unique, well-developed ideas in fics. There are DEFINITELY fics on the exchanges that have that. I've read some. Really REALLY clever fics with great ideas. I know they weren't written for me, but I loved them nonetheless. I just want to ask people what THEY liked, and see if I can go off of people's recs, instead of just randomly clicking. Maybe I should have made that more clear.
Did I create wank with this post? Should I delete or something?
Seriously, I just wanted people's fic recs, and for them to rec them for whatever reasons they see fit.
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Date: 2007-12-17 01:45 pm (UTC)Just my opinion, perhaps, but it seemed OOC for you to be so snarky about it, especially in a public post.
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Date: 2007-12-17 04:43 pm (UTC)You're right - I shouldn't have done that. I think I was taking out all of my vent-ish stress on the wrong target.
Is the damage done, or should I try to make reparations?
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Date: 2007-12-18 03:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 12:45 pm (UTC)The Secret Lives of Shadow Men (long) - H/D, epilogue compliant, hot and plotty
Weakness Snape/Draco, Draco/OMC - set during DH. Not plotty but intriguing.
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Date: 2007-12-16 04:04 pm (UTC)The second one seems right up my alley. I love plotty, canon-compliant stuff. Thank you for the rec! *gives you chocolate*
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Date: 2007-12-17 12:39 pm (UTC)And really, it wasn't that hot.
::shrugs:: I just love a helpless Draco.
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Date: 2007-12-16 06:29 pm (UTC)From what I have read, besides those recc'd above, The Most Unlikely of Places has stuck out. It's H/D, long (nearly 36,000 words), a fab original plot, very hot, the pace is perfect and characterization is spot on. I don't think you'll be dissapointed with this!
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Date: 2007-12-16 06:41 pm (UTC)What else is on your to-read list? How do you pick your to-read list? And where are the good recs lists?
Sorry, I'm flailing today.
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Date: 2007-12-16 07:40 pm (UTC)My Faves list and To Read list are in the sticky post on my journal, though it's currently in progress and I have a tonne to be added. Most on their are the classics, as I'm still working my way through those. Generally I decide what to read based on feedback - if there's a decent amount of positive comments, especially from authors or readers I respect, then chances are I'll read it!
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Date: 2007-12-17 04:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-17 05:03 am (UTC)And of course I'll read yours!! I've been meaning to forever, and that list isn't in any particular order, so I will read it next! <3
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Date: 2007-12-17 07:00 am (UTC)It's only friggin' fantastic and anyone who has even spent 5 minutes in fandom would know that! Silly girl!
*hugs*
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Date: 2007-12-17 11:42 am (UTC)And not everyone likes it, silly yourself. It's just a fic. As it was pointed out to me, everyone has different tastes. I'm sure there are plenty of people who think it's the worst fic in fandom. That's how it goes.
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Date: 2007-12-17 03:03 pm (UTC)Even taking different tastes into consideration, I find that hard to believe.
Having said that, I'm extremely biased because Eclipse is one of my all time faves, so maybe you're right. ;-P
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Date: 2007-12-17 04:41 pm (UTC)Take Eclipse, for example. I wrote that for myself. My intended audience was people who didn't believe that Harry/Draco could feel like it came out of canon. It was for people who wanted PG-13 fic, not smut. I had plenty of people say that they thought the boys should have had sex. I've had people tell me that they should have snogged sooner. I've had people tell me that the kiss at the end ruined it. And I've had one girl in particular tell me how much she HATED my characterization of Draco, (She likes her Draco suave, sexy, and wearing leather pants.), and that it's one of the H/D fics she can't stand. It's okay... I wasn't writing for her. She can read the Draco Trilogy.
The authors in the fic exchanges were writing for a specific audience - their recipients. If they pleased their audience, then that's what matters. Pleasing OTHER readers is just a bonus at that point. I'm hoping to find fics that might please ME as well as just the specific recipients. But just like people review my PG-13 fic and ask why there's no sex, I can look for fics that weren't written FOR me, and ask if there's something better.
You can't please everyone. But you can please yourself. (In more ways than one.) :D
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Date: 2007-12-17 05:21 pm (UTC)I agree wholeheartedly. I write for me. I always have. It's cheaper than therapy. The exception, of course is holiday exchange fests, but this year's HD_Hols is the first time I've dared to participate. It was interesting to write for someone else. I think I liked it. It definitely made me more diligent.
And I know it won't necessarily appeal to everyone, but frankly, I don't care. :) If it puts a smile on my recipient's face, then my job is done.
And it's so true about people's tastes. One of my favourite things about Eclipse was your characterization of Draco. And at the time, I actually had no issues with leather pants!Draco. I even enjoyed a few fics that featured him in that style. It really didn't fit with my vision of Draco from canon, but at that point, I was just happy to see some fic in which Draco was more than a bit player. (that's how I fell into the HD side of fandom to begin with.)
I've since become much more picky, but that's mainly due to people like you and furiosity, who actually managed to write a Draco who was IMO much more in line with canon, and now I'm spoiled. I'll still read fics featuring a less canon-like Draco, but I don't enjoy them nearly as much! I think that's why I love Eclipse. Because even more than 2 years later, I can read it and still love it, whereas some of the other fics I read and loved back then kinda make me cringe now...
BTW, I've read some good fics in the exchanges that I'll try to link to when I get home from work...
Oh, and pleasing yourself... never a bad thing! ;-)
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Date: 2007-12-17 06:30 pm (UTC)Yeah, that one girl in particular said that my Draco was horribly out of character, and she considered leather-pants!Draco to be IN character. To each her own, yes?
I like writing for other people, too. And even when we write for ourselves, when we POST fics, that means we're writing them for others, too. I write things that I enjoy reading and writing, but if I'm going to post them for public viewing, I'll make sure I'm giving it my best effort. Some people excuse lousy grammar, tons of typos, and horrible writing by saying, "Well, I write for MEEEEEE! So nyeah!" And my response is always, "Then why did you post it and ask people to read/review?" (Bear in mind, the people who do that are NOT the people who read/write in this LJ circle. Think more in terms of FF.net.)
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Date: 2007-12-17 07:51 pm (UTC)Oh man, the bad grammar people drive me crazy! I don't care how good the premise of a fic is, bad grammar or bad spelling leads to a big ol' click of the back button for me! It's one of my pet peeves.
And personally, I just don't understand why someone would want to post something that wasn't a positive reflection of themselves. I guess we're just the anal types here!
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Date: 2007-12-18 08:54 am (UTC)But if you don't wanna go look at that, then I'll also say that as of tonight my absolute favourite fic so far is:
Rise from the Ashes (Teddy Lupin/Cedric Diggory)
It's sooooo amazingly good. So beautiful. Funny in spots, heartbreaking in others, but utterly and completely satisfying. (and no you don't have to build up emotional strength to read it.)
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Date: 2007-12-17 11:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-17 06:57 am (UTC)Cupid is great! One of my faves of the fest so far!
Haven't read A Glass, Shattered yet.
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Date: 2007-12-16 07:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 07:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 07:52 pm (UTC)I am very inspiration bound with my writing, that's why I can never do these exchanges. I lose interest before I've written anything or never finish it. I have a Valentines Harry/Cedric from 2 years ago that still isn't finished. It is deliciously filthy so I will finish it one day. Maybe for Valentine's Day 2008. LOL
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Date: 2007-12-17 04:56 am (UTC)Whenever you're done, send it along! Filthy smutty guttery porn! YAY! Is there BDSM involved? :D
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Date: 2007-12-17 12:07 am (UTC)Love is like a Razorblade Not a bad plot and pretty long which is what I like :D, My Other Life, The Price We Pay For Wings.
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Date: 2007-12-17 04:53 am (UTC)I plan to read "The Price We Pay for Wings" when I feel I have the emotional capacity for what people claim is a real wringer of a fic.
Anything else?
(I know, I'm begging pathetically, but I can't help it.)
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Date: 2007-12-17 12:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-19 09:10 am (UTC)Lets see well this one The Living Half isn't to bad but I get lost in the dialog alot, you probably read Written in the Stars which is a good one.
Shoot need to keep on browsing haha and I wonder did I read The Price We Pay for Wings (might need tissues hmm?)
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Date: 2007-12-17 12:22 pm (UTC)(Oh, and, reading the comments: I loathe fluff, but I liked High Priced. It's not fluff, in fact, Draco is really IC in it.)